what you don't think a puppy hanging off of a kids pants is a good idea?? LOL
Seriously tho, a good friend has a Malinois but she is a experienced dog trainer, shes a bit afraid of what's going to happen now that the movie "Max" is out.... that is one breed that should NEVER be in inexperienced hands.
The title of this one had me without even knowing what you had posted. My head immediately responded with NOOOooooo!!! I really really really hope that people are not buying or selling these dogs as children's pets, Gaaahhh!
Back in the day, when I used to do Schutzhound training with my rottapotamous (weiller), the rest of the club was composed entirely of Malinois. These dogs did schutzhound, or ring sport, 1 or 2 did both I think. These dogs were well socialized, well trained, and could socialize with the helper without any protective gear. Some of them could heal backwards, they could quickly scale a 6 foot wall, and all of them were very fast and powerful to bite when appropriate for the work. Most all would release their bite readily in response to command, or in response to passive behavior by the helper. I would hazard a guess that any of these dogs could have been managed safely around children by their trainer/handler.
None of these dogs would have been good pets for children.
Maligators! I've had Belgians for over 20 years, love the breed, but they are not for most people. They take a huge amount of commitment and dedication, making sure they are well socialized and trained. Training is not optional. Socialization is not optional.
For me, they are the best dog ever. For most, a nightmare.
Interesting video of the Mal puppies. Recently I was a steward at a fun match at my obedience school. A lady had this nice male Malinois in the open obedience classes. He was fascinating to me. The energy and intensity coming off that dog was almost palpable. She had him doing drills constantly between their runs and his appetite for work was insatiable. I have a very high energy collie (of all things!) and spend the bulk of my spare time working with him. I've reconfigured our lifestyle to work around what my young Tasmanian devil needs and he has NOTHING on that Mal. I can't imagine what a commitment that would take.
the link is to Nando Brown and his Mal, Fizz. He is documenting his journey with her both on FB and youtube. Link to youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qma3deObY&list=PL6kBg9-Q1u5p47-ML0adRMNc1NV9IeWnu
I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard about someone who just got a particular breed of puppy because it was "cool", only to discover it was too active/assertive/aggressive/smart/prey-driven/calm/furry/slobbery/passive/large/small/friendly/standoffish/protective...
are you coming back mugwump??? I finally motivated myself to start my own blog ( I wrote a short story under "snaffle happy" that you posted a few years ago..... come back! and visit me too ;) https://halfsecondsplit.wordpress.com/
Janet, Thank you for one of the best horse training/ horse sense blogs out there! Learned a lot, and glad to have found it so many years ago. With all you have going on it's understandable that you may no longer want to continue writing. It's important that you know there are really no haters out here, just plain folks trying to learn, some learn by asking questions, some learn by listening and waiting. I feel like you thought you were under attack. You never were. Your blog is and was a success. Could be even better if you could restrain yourself from lashing out at times ;) lol But who says things have to be perfect. Just know that your blog helped lots of people & lots of horses. To success! ~ Old Follower
Any time you talk about a subject that has meaning to a bunch of people with different opinions, it can provoke negative comments from some. So what? The rest of us learn a lot by reading what people from both ends of the spectrum think. I don't personally need guarantees that everyone will always be "civil," a word that I interpret as "sheeplike." I do appreciate snotty when it's well done.
Hope your real life is doing as well as it can, that there are still some wonderful days happening.
Agree! Sometimes snotty, snarky, "not nice" , comments can be absolutely helpful at times - whether posted by the blog author or by the commenters. Gosh lets not get so overly sensitive that everything offends!
Funny how some people can focus on a small item in an overall glowingly positive review, and just latch onto that, ignoring all the positive things that came both before and after. I thought Old Follower was very complimentary and truthful in his/her review.
Conflict is an interesting thing. Some folks seem to thrive on it, and apparently some learn better while creating it.
There have been multiple requests on this blog to keep discussions civil and productive. To me the lack of following those simple guidelines demonstrates a lack of respect for the author. I guess the problem with that is that one person's interpretation of civil and productive may not be in line with another person's.
I expect that there are places where "snarky", and "snotty" comments are the norm, and are in line with the spirit of the board or blog. The fact that several comments are being left by "anonymous" folks suggests that the comments were not well intended in the first place, which goes against the spirit of this particular blog.
As I have personally learned a tremendous amount from this blogs author, I have developed a respect and sense of comradery that apparently includes attempting to support the intended spirit of the blog.
Only the worlds most sensitive person cannot handle the feedback that her blog would be better if "she didn't lash out so often". Clearly Mugwump is not that sensitive or she would refrain from the "lashing out" in the first place. I'm not sure why this is even an issue . The comment was very positive and no, one item of constructive criticism does not negate all the positive comments, which made up the bulk of the post! The post was extremely positive for Pete's sake! Seriously? Susie
Whywudyabreedit, RedHorse - I assume that neither of you have ever been a teacher or a student or a supervisor of an employee or a writer or anything where feedback is given? The post by Old Follower is a positively glowing with compliments . One item of feedback about the posters suggestions for how the blog would have been better ? And very kindly worded and softened , and still you manage to take offense? Improvement needs do not negate the positive aspects of a person , any more than the "compliment sandwich" destroys any positive feedback. Happy Labor Day Weekend, Teacher
Apparently I missed the post where she asked for feedback. I was also not aware that any of these folks were her supervisor, teacher, employer, or career writing critics, or that any of these types should feel compelled to give feedback in all situations where they see fit.
What you describe is a review situation. Typically these types of dialogues happen in a private setting in my experience. Particularly constructive criticism should occur in private if it is intended to have positive results. I can see that some others do not share my opinion on this, I am happy to agree to disagree with you on this.
And by the same logic, neither did Old Follower ask for your review on their post. By criticizing this poster and turning the focus on the one single improvement item mentioned, you are in fact robbing Mugwump and anyone else from basking in the glory of all of the positive comments made by Old Follower. Read that post again, it is extremely complimentary, and the fact that we all have room to improve should not mean that we are not wonderful people! With that I accept your suggestion to agree to disagree. Teacher
Missing my absolute favorite blog writer. You really make me think and re-think what I know and what I do with my horses. Hope you feel like writing again in the future. Best of luck in the real world. Mo
Came back to stalk some previous posts and comments. Missing you Mugs and hope you're well!
I have a Mal and love her to death - will always have one! But they are not for the faint of heart. I was her fourth home and she was only four months old.
what you don't think a puppy hanging off of a kids pants is a good idea?? LOL
ReplyDeleteSeriously tho, a good friend has a Malinois but she is a experienced dog trainer, shes a bit afraid of what's going to happen now that the movie "Max" is out.... that is one breed that should NEVER be in inexperienced hands.
MN Kim
Love it!
ReplyDeleteWI Kim agrees with MN Kim
The title of this one had me without even knowing what you had posted. My head immediately responded with NOOOooooo!!! I really really really hope that people are not buying or selling these dogs as children's pets, Gaaahhh!
ReplyDeleteBack in the day, when I used to do Schutzhound training with my rottapotamous (weiller), the rest of the club was composed entirely of Malinois. These dogs did schutzhound, or ring sport, 1 or 2 did both I think. These dogs were well socialized, well trained, and could socialize with the helper without any protective gear. Some of them could heal backwards, they could quickly scale a 6 foot wall, and all of them were very fast and powerful to bite when appropriate for the work. Most all would release their bite readily in response to command, or in response to passive behavior by the helper. I would hazard a guess that any of these dogs could have been managed safely around children by their trainer/handler.
None of these dogs would have been good pets for children.
Nanette
Maligators! I've had Belgians for over 20 years, love the breed, but they are not for most people. They take a huge amount of commitment and dedication, making sure they are well socialized and trained. Training is not optional. Socialization is not optional.
ReplyDeleteFor me, they are the best dog ever. For most, a nightmare.
Interesting video of the Mal puppies. Recently I was a steward at a fun match at my obedience school. A lady had this nice male Malinois in the open obedience classes. He was fascinating to me. The energy and intensity coming off that dog was almost palpable. She had him doing drills constantly between their runs and his appetite for work was insatiable. I have a very high energy collie (of all things!) and spend the bulk of my spare time working with him. I've reconfigured our lifestyle to work around what my young Tasmanian devil needs and he has NOTHING on that Mal. I can't imagine what a commitment that would take.
ReplyDeleteGreat title, way to scare the heck out of us! So glad this wasn't the tragic story of some dumbass parents who said that. :)
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/Incredimal?fref=ts
ReplyDeletethe link is to Nando Brown and his Mal, Fizz. He is documenting his journey with her both on FB and youtube. Link to youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qma3deObY&list=PL6kBg9-Q1u5p47-ML0adRMNc1NV9IeWnu
ReplyDeleteI wish I had a nickel for every time I heard about someone who just got a particular breed of puppy because it was "cool", only to discover it was too active/assertive/aggressive/smart/prey-driven/calm/furry/slobbery/passive/large/small/friendly/standoffish/protective...
ReplyDeletekul post !
ReplyDeleteare you coming back mugwump??? I finally motivated myself to start my own blog ( I wrote a short story under "snaffle happy" that you posted a few years ago.....
ReplyDeletecome back! and visit me too ;)
https://halfsecondsplit.wordpress.com/
Janet, Thank you for one of the best horse training/ horse sense blogs out there! Learned a lot, and glad to have found it so many years ago. With all you have going on it's understandable that you may no longer want to continue writing.
ReplyDeleteIt's important that you know there are really no haters out here, just plain folks trying to learn, some learn by asking questions, some learn by listening and waiting. I feel like you thought you were under attack. You never were.
Your blog is and was a success.
Could be even better if you could restrain yourself from lashing out at times ;) lol
But who says things have to be perfect.
Just know that your blog helped lots of people & lots of horses.
To success!
~ Old Follower
"Could be even better if you could restrain yourself from lashing out at times"
ReplyDeleteReally? When you have to include the snotty side comment it kind of negates the "nicer" things that you had to say. Or maybe it is just me ;)
Nanette
It's not just you.
ReplyDeleteAny time you talk about a subject that has meaning to a bunch of people with different opinions, it can provoke negative comments from some. So what? The rest of us learn a lot by reading what people from both ends of the spectrum think. I don't personally need guarantees that everyone will always be "civil," a word that I interpret as "sheeplike." I do appreciate snotty when it's well done.
ReplyDeleteHope your real life is doing as well as it can, that there are still some wonderful days happening.
XOX
Agree! Sometimes snotty, snarky, "not nice" , comments can be absolutely helpful at times - whether posted by the blog author or by the commenters.
ReplyDeleteGosh lets not get so overly sensitive that everything offends!
Funny how some people can focus on a small item in an overall glowingly positive review, and just latch onto that, ignoring all the positive things that came both before and after.
ReplyDeleteI thought Old Follower was very complimentary and truthful in his/her review.
Conflict is an interesting thing. Some folks seem to thrive on it, and apparently some learn better while creating it.
ReplyDeleteThere have been multiple requests on this blog to keep discussions civil and productive. To me the lack of following those simple guidelines demonstrates a lack of respect for the author. I guess the problem with that is that one person's interpretation of civil and productive may not be in line with another person's.
I expect that there are places where "snarky", and "snotty" comments are the norm, and are in line with the spirit of the board or blog. The fact that several comments are being left by "anonymous" folks suggests that the comments were not well intended in the first place, which goes against the spirit of this particular blog.
As I have personally learned a tremendous amount from this blogs author, I have developed a respect and sense of comradery that apparently includes attempting to support the intended spirit of the blog.
Happy Labor Day Weekend
Only the worlds most sensitive person cannot handle the feedback that her blog would be better if "she didn't lash out so often".
ReplyDeleteClearly Mugwump is not that sensitive or she would refrain from the "lashing out" in the first place.
I'm not sure why this is even an issue . The comment was very positive and no, one item of constructive criticism does not negate all the positive comments, which made up the bulk of the post! The post was extremely positive for Pete's sake!
Seriously?
Susie
Whywudyabreedit, RedHorse - I assume that neither of you have ever been a teacher or a student or a supervisor of an employee or a writer or anything where feedback is given?
ReplyDeleteThe post by Old Follower is a positively glowing with compliments .
One item of feedback about the posters suggestions for how the blog would have been better ? And very kindly worded and softened , and still you manage to take offense?
Improvement needs do not negate the positive aspects of a person , any more than the "compliment sandwich" destroys any positive feedback.
Happy Labor Day Weekend,
Teacher
Apparently I missed the post where she asked for feedback. I was also not aware that any of these folks were her supervisor, teacher, employer, or career writing critics, or that any of these types should feel compelled to give feedback in all situations where they see fit.
ReplyDeleteWhat you describe is a review situation. Typically these types of dialogues happen in a private setting in my experience. Particularly constructive criticism should occur in private if it is intended to have positive results. I can see that some others do not share my opinion on this, I am happy to agree to disagree with you on this.
And by the same logic, neither did Old Follower ask for your review on their post. By criticizing this poster and turning the focus on the one single improvement item mentioned, you are in fact robbing Mugwump and anyone else from basking in the glory of all of the positive comments made by Old Follower.
ReplyDeleteRead that post again, it is extremely complimentary, and the fact that we all have room to improve should not mean that we are not wonderful people!
With that I accept your suggestion to agree to disagree.
Teacher
You ok Mugs? It's been awhile...hope you're doing just fine and living your life to the fullest!
ReplyDeleteMissing my absolute favorite blog writer. You really make me think and re-think what I know and what I do with my horses. Hope you feel like writing again in the future. Best of luck in the real world. Mo
ReplyDeleteNot to be stalking too much but her FB page has been quiet since August :(
ReplyDeleteI'm starting to worry.
ReplyDeleteShe finally did post on FB so she's still around :) Hopefully she's busy writing and we'll get a lot of winter stories from her!
ReplyDeleteMiss you, Mugs! Here's hoping everything is ok out in the wide, non-digital world. Until then, I'll just keep stalking your blog and the comments :)
ReplyDeleteCame back to stalk some previous posts and comments. Missing you Mugs and hope you're well!
ReplyDeleteI have a Mal and love her to death - will always have one! But they are not for the faint of heart. I was her fourth home and she was only four months old.