tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post6935245707492429492..comments2024-01-03T03:28:48.980-07:00Comments on mugwump Chronicles: Mouthy Monday - Synopsis of PaintarabMugwumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01487540636265322556noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-69858786522121857292013-11-08T07:25:07.156-07:002013-11-08T07:25:07.156-07:00So what about a horse who isn't a total starga...So what about a horse who isn't a total stargazer, but travels hollow with the nose poked out? Will these techniques work for them too?<br /><br />I fear this is off topic, or maybe too far ahead of the game, but do you have recommendations for teaching a horse to seek the bit at the canter? I have walk and trot down pretty well, but canter is, well, a struggle.<br /><br />Thanks for your wonderful writing and have a great weekend!<br /><br />-HaleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-92179902921506834202013-11-07T09:08:04.502-07:002013-11-07T09:08:04.502-07:00paintarab - Congratulations! paintarab - Congratulations! mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-38580266559415979872013-11-06T15:46:08.581-07:002013-11-06T15:46:08.581-07:00Hi Mugs, thanks for the posting! I look forward ...Hi Mugs, thanks for the posting! I look forward to once again trying out your methods. Andromeda has had all summer and fall off because I am pregnant (due any day now). I am hoping the time off will be a great excuse to slowly start from square one and see if we can make progress on safely riding without the tie down.paintarabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676883569515282764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-32358909520661519762013-11-06T06:32:28.425-07:002013-11-06T06:32:28.425-07:00Allnamedwildfire- Sounds fun, fun, fun.Allnamedwildfire- Sounds fun, fun, fun.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-42708351448225501402013-11-05T14:50:25.628-07:002013-11-05T14:50:25.628-07:00Not trying to hijack your post. Love Big K's ...Not trying to hijack your post. Love Big K's comment, especially after my last few days... Came back to update on my mare; the one that's been a broodmare for the past 8 years. I've put 3 rides on her since weaning her filly last week (gave her a few days to dry up, did 3 days of pretty serious groundwork, tonight will be ride 4). No buck. Riding her in a rope halter/hack until Thursday - she's having her teeth floated tomorrow. She walks, trots, lopes, backs, and almost ... almost ... neck reins. After having only a couple months on her as a 3 year old, then being in a pasture with minimal human contact for eight years. I'm following a lot of your philosophy on moving her feet, doing serpentines, figure 8's, and generally reminding her she is supposed to go forward and follow her nose. She is smooth and quiet and everything from here on is just fine tuning what she knows and what she remembers, and constantly reminding myself that I'm riding a green horse in a mature horse's body. AllNamedWildfirehttp://allnamedwildfire.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-20629405339474734062013-11-05T09:44:37.061-07:002013-11-05T09:44:37.061-07:00Wonderful post, and it hits so close to home for m...Wonderful post, and it hits so close to home for me. I put my 15 year old middle-aged delinquent (a result of his "mommy" being too indulgent about his "idiosyncracies") into training with a really good young trainer for 60 days, just finished a couple of weeks ago.<br /><br />This trainer (Romain Ampe of Ampe Performance Horses, in Dunstable MA - gotta put in a plug) trains reiners primarily. And Tico (the horse in question), though cowhorse bred, wasn't going to be going anywhere near an NRHA show ring. <br /><br />Romain made sure I knew that I MADE the problems, and it was my responsibility, since I was looking to him to fix what I broke, to change my behavior as well.<br /> <br />So after the first couple of weeks (while Tico and he worked out their differences, which involved similar head-in-the-air issues as well as a few "I don't wanna and you can't make me" tantrums), I took weekly lessons on Tico. <br /><br />It then took a few lessons for Romain to break me of my bad habits, especially the "good boy" pat when the only thing Tico did was that we stopped moving.<br /><br />I'm still taking a weekly lesson with Romain to keep ME tuned up. <br /><br />And how this relates to your post, sort of...<br /><br />Tico... well in the past, a trail ride would often involve a lot of rein yanking and kicking ("No, you can't eat those leaves!", "No just because the reins are loose it doesn't mean you can stop dead and graze"). Now we go out in a field, and he just goes. No "I'm staaaaarrrrrving!" No, "not that bunch of leaves? How about these?" In the woods, he moves along, watches where he puts his feet, dodges branches, but doesn't try to eat everything.<br /><br />All of the training he got was inside an indoor. Circles, suppling, straight line canters, run downs to whoa (not sliding, just whoa), backing up, moving the forehand, moving the haunches... But the discipline translates to everything we do.<br /><br />Though for what it's worth, blood will tell: Romain has half-joked a number of times that I should put sliders on Tico. I say whoa and he drops his butt and leaves rails in the dirt, just with his regular shoes. :)Scamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04236918959046980355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-13605186502656173022013-11-05T06:42:49.908-07:002013-11-05T06:42:49.908-07:00Bonita -- Behind the bit has always been frustrati...Bonita -- Behind the bit has always been frustrating to me. It's like the horse is evading my wall by setting his poll on it, which lets him trail his hind legs along.<br />I had a client, also a trainer, whose primary discipline was dressage.We met when she came to me to learn some reining. We continued to ride together to trade concepts and ideas. <br />Anyway, she showed me a "stupid simple" technique for a horse that wanted to go behind the bit (this exercise works best with an O-ring snaffle) The second my horse went behind the bit, I stood in my stirrups, leaned forward, raised my hands to shoulder level and bumped the bit, not hard, but definitely annoying, in rhythm with the trot. I'd say, "Up! Up! Up!" with every bump until the horse went to the bit, nose down. The horse learned to move into the bit, just to get me out of his face and back in a balanced position.It works very quickly. mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-73981951198036101372013-11-05T06:20:02.732-07:002013-11-05T06:20:02.732-07:00A good horse takes time.
And real estate and live...A good horse takes time.<br /><br />And real estate and livestock.. <br /><br />My mare is 9.. she is in my mind still green broke.. <br /><br />My gelding died at 35 this year.. technically, he was still green broke .. in my mind :)<br />Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18030821849160346167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-69830711768490908992013-11-05T01:32:20.423-07:002013-11-05T01:32:20.423-07:00I don't have a head flinger - he likes to curl...I don't have a head flinger - he likes to curl under the bit, but it's the same thing in the end. He want to take control and run at his own pace. I've been at a loss on how to work with him, I've been just trying to drive, drive, drive his hind-end underneath him and not touch his head.<br /><br />I will definitely be trying this serpentine schooling with him; thank you so much for writing about it. <br /><br />bonita of <a href="http://www.aridinghabit.com.au/" rel="nofollow">A Riding Habit</a>Lavender and Twillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06331125027969557539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-74470834121642758652013-11-04T20:46:55.789-07:002013-11-04T20:46:55.789-07:00Fantastic. I don't have a head-flinger but I&...Fantastic. I don't have a head-flinger but I'm going to do this anyways! Heidi Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677569496527499323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-33968935462457851692013-11-04T18:05:42.638-07:002013-11-04T18:05:42.638-07:00"A good horse takes time. They live for thirt..."A good horse takes time. They live for thirty years for a reason."<br /><br />Well said.Heccateisishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08408467269948747026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-22093637037079290492013-11-04T16:19:06.638-07:002013-11-04T16:19:06.638-07:00K told me once, "It only takes three days to ...K told me once, "It only takes three days to get them broke, from then on you're training. What people don't get is training's nothing more than building off those first three days."<br /><br />I've never forgotten that. I've come to think the difference between disciplines are nothing more than variations of the same thing.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-40539824679833495222013-11-04T16:10:18.819-07:002013-11-04T16:10:18.819-07:00Really nice post - very well written.
Once again ...Really nice post - very well written.<br /><br />Once again I'm struck by the thought that the basics of correct riding / training are <i>not</i> discipline specific.<br /><br />My former trainer was fond of saying: "If he ain't reachin', you ain't drivin'!" <br /><br />(Well, maybe not fond, but she did have to repeat herself... ;D)Calm, Forward, Straighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360276614916635500noreply@blogger.com