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Or dropping a loop around the hind legs of a donkey being poined by a halter.Babygoosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210163455052683958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-69272071292719486042012-06-15T12:11:07.554-06:002012-06-15T12:11:07.554-06:00whatever. Western yahoos, be ashamed. YOU teach ki...whatever. Western yahoos, be ashamed. YOU teach kids this is okay? Seriously? wow, just, wow. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmp8pkbU03I" rel="nofollow">I hope this makes you sick, too Mugs</a><br />Because as long as y'all say nothing, on and on and on it goes.<br />Disgusting. Mexican horse tripping pales in comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-83735283338481604802012-06-15T03:53:12.780-06:002012-06-15T03:53:12.780-06:00I know it is difficult to hear that someone consid...I know it is difficult to hear that someone considers a practice we take for granted as something barbaric and horrifying. Unfortunately it is easy to think what we see around us is 'normal' and become desensitised to it, where people unfamiliar with it can see it for what it is, or at least see it very differently.<br /><br />I don't see any justification for roping donkeys or in fact for roping any animals for 'sport'. I understand it may sometimes be necessary for animal management reasons, but to promote it as a sport is up there with bull baiting and dog fighting to me.<br /><br />If roping is so harmless, maybe a cowboy/girl can volunteer to be the 'donkey' and be roped? I'd have no problems with that because the human has a choice. I suspect slaughter might be preferable to being used like this.<br /><br />I hope this sport soon goes the way of other practices that used to be considered 'normal' - foot binding, slavery, women not having the vote, kids working at 8 years, etc.Clancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00349843561587332639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-35783220687997615622012-06-14T19:58:43.723-06:002012-06-14T19:58:43.723-06:00In a choice between being sent to slaughter, or go...In a choice between being sent to slaughter, or going to a rodeo? I'd choose slaughter, thanks. At least the fear is over quick. Just LOVE how you western folks are so quick to defend needless noosing of an animal's neck.<br />Here's your bestest rodeo of them all. <a href="www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3NM8yMHvlI" rel="nofollow">Sure fast is good</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-76966052886025126162012-06-14T06:04:03.350-06:002012-06-14T06:04:03.350-06:00OMG, there we go again. "Children that are no...OMG, there we go again. "Children that are not cared for as well.."<br /><br />I noticed you didn't mention the great care the livestock receives in PRCA rodeos. What utter bullshit. Sure the horses are cared for. Calgary Stampede has finally admitted they cull their stock, and send 'em to slaughter. The biggest proponents for horse slaughter are you western folks, you know.<br /><br />And yes, I have worked cows. Slow. I lived. Buddy of mine was killed working with his stock. It's dangerous work, and when you rush it, you are stupid. And you are at the rodeo.<br /><br />Rodeo is all about the threat of death. Makes me sick.<br />But hey, keep on hanging animals by the neck. It IS the western way, after all. <br />Tell me, will you cheer wildly at the Wild Pony Races this year in Calgary? I can hardly wait to see that cruelty fest again. A rodeo supporter has likened the Wild Horse Races to demolition derbies with horse-flesh. Yummmy.<br /><br />Western is infested with cruelty. Get a grip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-76894956255364374062012-06-13T15:11:40.231-06:002012-06-13T15:11:40.231-06:00To Anonymous that wants to know what the rush is.....To Anonymous that wants to know what the rush is...Have you ever worked cattle? Yes, slow is preferable, but sometimes it's not an option. When you have a herd of cows and calves to sort, you have to be efficient. Slow does not work. If it's 6am when you start, you've got a short window of time to handle them all while it's cool, before they get over stimulated and get cranky. Piddle around too long, it'll get hot and they get hard to handle. <br />You paint with a broad stroke by lumping everyone in the rodeo arena in one blob. The ones that you see at small town local rodeos are not the majority. Those that are professionals that make their living with their horse and with cattle can't afford to mistreat any of their animals. There are children in this world that aren't as well managed and cared for as some of the horses that belong to PRCA ropers are.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595151768163764556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-19041956566533549992012-06-13T14:19:10.772-06:002012-06-13T14:19:10.772-06:00I'm with Dancing Donkey here. You make it soun...I'm with Dancing Donkey here. You make it sound all sweet and gentle. Yet, in the rodeo arena, everything one knows about handling stock goes right out the window, to make that quick time. THAT's what's wrong with rodeo roping. It's not how to treat livestock. ANY livestock.<br /><br />Move them slow. What's the fricking rush, anyway?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-59047353094279035802012-06-12T20:03:04.010-06:002012-06-12T20:03:04.010-06:00If this was the "norm" for donkey roping...If this was the "norm" for donkey roping, I'd support it with no qualms. Unfortunately, I think your experience is the exception not the rule, especially in the competitions. Sadly, the kind of training you describe does not fill grandstands.The Dancing Donkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274299120708749101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-80017508649037069632012-06-09T13:13:14.804-06:002012-06-09T13:13:14.804-06:00I have heard and seen them advertised to teach sho...I have heard and seen them advertised to teach show calves how to lead. They are tied to each other and the donkey just drags the calve around till it finally learns to give to the pressure. Much easier on the small farm child that is showing cattle than him actually trying to lead a big obnoxious steer. The ad I saw rented them out for the summer for this.doublekarabianshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17058149846416060671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-41695889859212270202012-06-09T04:44:24.632-06:002012-06-09T04:44:24.632-06:00An Image of Grace- This has to be an example of mo...An Image of Grace- This has to be an example of morons who own horses, not horsemen who are ropers.<br />A properly prepared rope horse can be roped by their head, their feet, anything that sticks out and won't flinch.<br />A rope horse that panics at the sight of a swinging rope isn't much of an asset.<br />Both my horses have been acclimatized to a rope since I've been to this barn. It's gone an incredibly long way towards teaching them to be calm, relaxed and accepting when things go flying around their heads and feet.<br />Your lovely mare was victimized by asshats, not ropers.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-66754869309883581372012-06-09T03:42:22.217-06:002012-06-09T03:42:22.217-06:00Donky are amazing creatures. Probably one of the m...Donky are amazing creatures. Probably one of the most abused worldwide. I've worked with them in egypt doing volunteer work, it's amazing what they can handle.<br /><br />I think liked everything a good horsemen will treat his donkey as an asset, others won't. I think the way mugs described them being used gives them a great career and a chance to be useful, its a good thing.<br /><br />I know bull farmers, who use donks to stop bulls fighting in the paddock,they are tough!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057329757493026569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-18919998340762975762012-06-08T22:49:10.996-06:002012-06-08T22:49:10.996-06:00Nagonmom, I have heard a similar story apparently ...Nagonmom, I have heard a similar story apparently an old cowboy out here who use to halter break his bull's that way!Greenienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-48446611767419532192012-06-08T12:13:00.378-06:002012-06-08T12:13:00.378-06:00When referring to "roping" donkeys, I do...When referring to "roping" donkeys, I do not think that Training facility's are in reference here. It is the Mexican Rodeos that do this for sport, and they do throw the donkey down. THAT is cruel!mrscravitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06734008259700267954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-88990558286860356962012-06-08T09:12:16.063-06:002012-06-08T09:12:16.063-06:00This raises memory. Have you ever heard of tying a...This raises memory. Have you ever heard of tying a horse to a donkey to train the horse to lead? Apparently donkeys have really strong necks, and a trainer I know had a collar (think harness not dog) that would be on the donkey linked to a rope/halter/young idiot horse. And most of the time, the donkey would teach the horse to follow, yield to pressure, calm down while being led. Sometimes human intervention was required, if the horse would try to savage the donkey, or if the donkey was dragging the horse who had laid down in protest. The donkey was adorable, well-trained, and broke to ride. He was a valued partner in training.nagonmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-89632418678352531982012-06-07T23:14:58.470-06:002012-06-07T23:14:58.470-06:00Boy, I'm glad to see a level headed take on th...Boy, I'm glad to see a level headed take on this. I have a BLM burro, love her tremendously - pack her and am breaking her to drive. I've read a lot of hysteria about how roping ruins donkeys and how terrible ropers are to burros and animals in general. There are sure a lot of shades of gray, but I know of one donkey in particular who's trained many heel horses - he knows the pattern, runs it reliably, waits to have the rope shaken off and walks off. He knows his job, does it willingly, is well fed and gets some exercise. He's not foundering in some backyard somewhere.... A roping donkey in america is probably pretty lucky, considering the historic and global uses of the animals.Cristyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12477399694790870358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-13562813094375296952012-06-07T17:30:54.712-06:002012-06-07T17:30:54.712-06:00I've read some of those blogs regarding the ho...I've read some of those blogs regarding the horrific treatment of roping donkeys.<br />I also have a neighbour that had a donkey he used for roping practice among other things (Dickens was often the star of the Christmas pagent)<br />I figure its like almost anything with horses... there are those who do it in a barbaric fashion and those who take care of the animal.cdncowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055181472294995601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-66264500932669872472012-06-07T16:05:48.743-06:002012-06-07T16:05:48.743-06:00I think, Mugs, that you have the pleasure of assoc...I think, Mugs, that you have the pleasure of associating with caring professionals. It's not them that worry me.Half Dozen Farmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-40233102930069798282012-06-07T15:37:23.826-06:002012-06-07T15:37:23.826-06:00What I always go back to is financial reality. It ...What I always go back to is financial reality. It doesn't help a pro to abuse an animal. It hurts their reputation and pocket book. Nobody profits from a crippled or dead animal.<br />Even if a horseman looks at his horses as machines, he won't make money by hurting them.<br />I was known to be way to attached to my horses during my life as a trainer, but I've seen emotional reactions hurt horses every bit as much, if not more, than practicality.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-66300949777054585662012-06-07T15:23:32.890-06:002012-06-07T15:23:32.890-06:00As with most situations with animals the better yo...As with most situations with animals the better you treat them the longer they last and are useful. I have one friend who's donkey has lasted well over ten years. "Friendly" is a permanaent resident there and he really knows his job and has trained numerous amatears and kids to rope. He's an asset to the training program so he is treated as an asset.<br /><br />I'm sure some donekys do get abused, just like horses, dogs and children. This doesn't mean that EVERY roper beats donkeys. There is just a responsible way to do it and a stupid way to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com