tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post9008264288050566529..comments2024-01-03T03:28:48.980-07:00Comments on mugwump Chronicles: TallyMugwumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01487540636265322556noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-51122489621889121132013-07-06T21:18:09.955-06:002013-07-06T21:18:09.955-06:00Thank you for the TALLY story! Big THANK YOU for p...Thank you for the TALLY story! Big THANK YOU for putting into words what I believe about "bonding". Hooey! It's like doing busywork on the job...something that takes up time and makes a worker look productive, but the end result doesn't mean a hill of beans. Some people do this because it feels good, familiar, and they actually enjoy it. I call that occupational masturbation - not really getting anywhere, just doing it because it feels good. Bonding is another such activity. Do it because it feels good, but it's not going to translate to better horsemanship in the saddle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-48170210959445895452013-06-22T10:22:59.996-06:002013-06-22T10:22:59.996-06:00As always, YAY! TALLY STORY.
The irony at boardin...As always, YAY! TALLY STORY.<br /><br />The irony at boarding barns is that usually the people with the best info aren't going to speak up ("interfere") unless asked, because they've been around the boarding block, so the newbies get flooded with not always great advice.<br /><br />Anonymous, your novice might want to go by my favorite thought of "I will not allow a thousand pound animal with the brain the size of a tangerine to make the decisions in my relationship." ;-)<br /><br />I find some of his thoughts on observing horses from GWN very insightful and interesting, but I think as a rider or trainer, past the basic level, he is horrible. Personal choice. ('Cause Becky knows I love her.)<br /><br />Horses need to have both respect and trust for the rider or handler if things are to go well. You can get by with one or the other, but not truly well for long. <br /><br />People are too likely to add in the human emotions that go along with trust and respect that are not horse possible. The HUMAN respects the horse and his needs and capabilities, which includes accidentally killing you through no real fault of his own. The human TRUSTS as much as you can trust the training you've put into an ANIMAL that has it's own thoughts, feelings, and wants.<br /><br />And we love them though and through anyway. I've trusted horses in ways not in line with the thoughts above, and I've been lucky, but anytime you place your trust in a horse, it is possible that you may be maimed or killed. As a thinking person it is our job to accept and own that and respect the horse.Bifhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07648037666735227722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-71075187804640239002013-06-19T11:09:58.720-06:002013-06-19T11:09:58.720-06:00wow, great story with lots to digest. my big TB is...wow, great story with lots to digest. my big TB is calm and willing at home, or accompanied anywhere by his pasture buddy, but an anxiety ridden, tense, explosive ride when alone at shows. can't get out of the warm up ring into a class yet. spent over two hours riding him to get him to focus on work and calm down. have a coach helping me, but this story drives home how much more riding i have to do at home and away to get him to trust me to take care of him. i love how your stories distill those key ideas into something we can all identify with, thanks.Monoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-45751152322329296862013-06-18T21:45:52.832-06:002013-06-18T21:45:52.832-06:00I have been struggling with the differences in con...I have been struggling with the differences in concepts from different trainers/riders. I thought EVERYBODY knew better than I did so always listened to info that came my way. I now have a very very good instructor that I can trust to do the right thing for me and my horse but STILL have fallen into that "everybody says" trap. It is hard to break a life long . . . What do you call it? Person who listens to bad or poorly timed advise. Your story really brings it home to me. Thank you.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07673248016419731468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-36540295707599736372013-06-18T08:12:40.132-06:002013-06-18T08:12:40.132-06:00Unknown -- I was hoping I was standing up for Tim ...Unknown -- I was hoping I was standing up for Tim a little better.<br />The guy was tough. He rode all the time, as a matter of fact, he got in his mess with Tally because he wanted to tide every day, and I was only available 3 x a week.<br />He was very new to horses, and as usual for new horse owners he was drowning in unsolicited advice.<br />He wanted to ride so much, he wanted to do everything right. When I started with my first horse, I didn't listen to anybody and I sure didn't want to hear it was going to take years of hard work to get anywhere.<br />mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-29808914190289904542013-06-18T07:38:50.922-06:002013-06-18T07:38:50.922-06:00Tim sounds just like my SO, Charlie. His horses &...Tim sounds just like my SO, Charlie. His horses "walk" all over him, drives me nuts but he's "bonding. He won't ride unless it's perfect" - the wind isn't blowing, sun is shining, no clouds in the sky, etc. He won't ride them in the woods (horse eating trees), won't ride them down by the interstate (fenced in area but if they get loose), etc, etc. I just grit my teeth and say, His Horses, His Way, My Horses, My Way. Course, I have 2 of his horses at my place and, gee, guess who gets a dose of "reality". Thanks for the Tally story, alot to chew on.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10610209406590158088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-58827993065608805432013-06-17T13:08:01.929-06:002013-06-17T13:08:01.929-06:00I went through last night and re-read all of the T...I went through last night and re-read all of the Tally stories. I am working with a kid who is a novice rider, and doesn't understand the concept of establishing a relationship based on trust. The kid continually allows the horse to make decisions... The he doesn't like this or that while she's working with him. The assignment that I gave was to read all of the Tally stories. The overwhelming message I get from these is establishing trust and respect by being kind, firm, and fair is in the end what will save your ass when things go wrong. Thank you Mugs for sharing your experiences with all of us. There Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-22450709183265081952013-06-17T06:54:52.991-06:002013-06-17T06:54:52.991-06:00Makes me wonder if Tim would take your advice more...Makes me wonder if Tim would take your advice more seriously if you were a male, rather than a female, trainer. Arg! <br /><br />As usual, captivating and honest writing. Thanks!!bassgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03637265423172890843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-43119993305506682842013-06-17T06:41:57.368-06:002013-06-17T06:41:57.368-06:00You handled Tim very well...hope he understands th...You handled Tim very well...hope he understands the importance of following directions...men seem to have a problem with that sometimes. Great story again.gtyyuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02402170522183324256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-79761675549139129182013-06-17T00:57:26.320-06:002013-06-17T00:57:26.320-06:00started out bad and just as it seems like you were...started out bad and just as it seems like you were getting though to him something else comes up. Poor Tally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-35841573603322208772013-06-16T22:50:57.136-06:002013-06-16T22:50:57.136-06:00Tally! Tally! Tally!
Thank you Mugs!
Also great re...Tally! Tally! Tally!<br />Thank you Mugs!<br />Also great reminders for us city kids - horses are really horses. :-)DeeDeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-43336848347333767852013-06-16T18:31:05.105-06:002013-06-16T18:31:05.105-06:00Powerful story... I am amazed at how you craft you...Powerful story... I am amazed at how you craft your tales, and I am itching to hear how you solve this tangle!<br /><br />bonita of <a href="http://www.aridinghabit.blogspot.com.au/" rel="nofollow">A Riding Habit</a>Lavender and Twillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06331125027969557539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-71163589457891538182013-06-16T12:58:27.943-06:002013-06-16T12:58:27.943-06:00Poor Tim, that's a tough lesson to learn, but ...Poor Tim, that's a tough lesson to learn, but it's better to learn it as soon as possible. Or stick to the old, broke horses that kids and grandma's can ride.<br /><br /> One of my best friends, who passed away 3 months ago, trained horses for a living, and almost all of her clients were the "afraid/incapable of riding so lets get a good bond going" type. She was ruthless with them, she didn't accept excuses. The "Petie's having a bad day because he doesn't like rain" stuff drove her crazy, and may get you banished. God,I miss her. And she was authentically 1/4 Native American, unlike GW boy, who hasn't got a drop of Native blood. I don't want to offend anyone (like Becky) but I can't stand that guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-25916632750837061172013-06-16T12:52:46.494-06:002013-06-16T12:52:46.494-06:00I have a tendency to humanize my horses...even tho...I have a tendency to humanize my horses...even though I know that it is the wrong thing to do. I'[m enjoying the lesson here, can't wait to hear more. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617546413512282387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-91791516170142932832013-06-16T08:38:55.901-06:002013-06-16T08:38:55.901-06:00My first thought on seeing the post title was, &qu...My first thought on seeing the post title was, "Yay, Tally!". By the time I got halfway through it was, "Poor Tally! She didn't have a chance here."shadowlake2005https://www.blogger.com/profile/04750706170718003186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-68200518066346794492013-06-15T17:47:43.589-06:002013-06-15T17:47:43.589-06:00Yay! Tally story!!!!! *does happy dance*
Lots of s...Yay! Tally story!!!!! *does happy dance*<br />Lots of stuff to think about too......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-43589397357280269502013-06-15T17:31:28.530-06:002013-06-15T17:31:28.530-06:00Yes! My boss/friend just sent out her horse who is...Yes! My boss/friend just sent out her horse who is a spin and bolter; she's been hurt several times and is now letting a trainer with the the mare. Only I think the mare needs more...just lots and lots of saddle time, a calm rider who will work with her, and build, not only her confidence but her trust. My mare has learned that no matter how much that log may want to eat her, we are going to ride past it and it will be okay. Please don't torture us and make us wait too long for the next installment! Thank you !!!HorsesAndTurboshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03607758320356759231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-91984647774578756232013-06-15T15:59:26.652-06:002013-06-15T15:59:26.652-06:00I really hope Tim eventually understands that hors...I really hope Tim eventually understands that horses don't see the world the way people do. It can make things so much easier, or at least more understandable.Snipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09691114613313099716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-6438924087031290042013-06-15T09:22:02.064-06:002013-06-15T09:22:02.064-06:00GaWaNi Pony has always been one of my favorite cli...GaWaNi Pony has always been one of my favorite clinicians - I went to the Equine Affair Horse Expo by my house a couple of times, and he was the most down to earth, least gimmicky clinician I encountered.<br /><br />That said, I'll admit I was surprised by practical he was, after buying his Horse, Follow Closely book (no regrets, still one of my favorite books, although mostly for the pictures), so maybe you're onto something. <br /><br />There's some good stuff to chew on in this story. Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09544884349722760099noreply@blogger.com