tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post8667014935758388254..comments2024-01-03T03:28:48.980-07:00Comments on mugwump Chronicles: WTF Dog Park People? Or, The Mystery of the Moronic Dog OwnersMugwumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01487540636265322556noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-4367151219328348342014-11-29T21:49:48.545-07:002014-11-29T21:49:48.545-07:00not only dog parks, but anywhere people are walkin...not only dog parks, but anywhere people are walking their dogs on the long, retractable leashes. These people usually feel no need to shorten their leashes or move there dogs away, even when asked. Used to own a very unfriendly Blue Heeler who had excelent manners as long as other dogs kept their distance. I could warn, beg and plead with other owners to keep their dogs back and they would just look at us. Even toy sized dogs, which our dog could have killed with one shake. People now a days have no sense or respect for others!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-84263447053565871092014-11-27T17:22:37.753-07:002014-11-27T17:22:37.753-07:00I have a love/hate relationship with my local dog ...I have a love/hate relationship with my local dog park - I love it when I go at my regular time on a week day, however at other times of the day when I have gone there I've been the mad cow yelling at someone to "call your bloody dogs in" while mine comes flying back to me for protection. At our normal time there is a good bunch of people and dogs. Although I did have words with someone recently that gave my dog a treat because he lined up with her dog when she got it to sit. He's a 50kg Rhodesian Ridgeback and he is NOT allowed to mug/pester for treats, and that is what she was training him to do. I got called mean for not rewarding other peoples dogs for just sitting in front of me. <br />We've done a lot of work with him, he's sometimes inclined to forget his huge, and think he's a pup (he's 14 months old, so huge in body, a bit immature in mind). so that's when he's back at heel (and sometimes on leash) if we see another dog at the beach or off leash tracks. <br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17705417333700162861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-83964076415546294812014-11-26T10:42:16.593-07:002014-11-26T10:42:16.593-07:00Shadow Rider - I'm right there with you. Horse...Shadow Rider - I'm right there with you. Horses love to play "Stomp the Dog."<br />mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-27831280116299418832014-11-25T15:30:32.820-07:002014-11-25T15:30:32.820-07:00Lytha, when that happens to me and my horses, I gi...Lytha, when that happens to me and my horses, I give the owner a chance to do something about it, but if they don't my horse and I start playing 'stomp the dog.' We have never actually stepped on one, but owners always grab their dog quick when I start and my horses don't fear dogs now. <br /><br />As for dog parks, I never do them. I have Irish Wolfhounds, and their size is a magnet for aggressive behavior from other dogs. But I also don't go because of health reasons. I don't want my dogs picking up some nasty virus or parasite. Shadow Riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015365019108553741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-67222979176418759132014-11-23T14:50:47.355-07:002014-11-23T14:50:47.355-07:00We have a local off-leash park.
I don't hav...We have a local off-leash park. <br /><br />I don't have to worry about Artemis - she has no desire to play with other dogs. I just take her to the creek portion and let her go swimming after balls - it works for us. <br /><br />The other day I wanted to see what Sudo would do with water. I considered going to the river, where I'm technically not allowed, but decided to do the right thing.<br /><br />I pulled up to the off-leash park area, but even though I'd chosen the quietest time of day someone had two yellow labs running around. One sweet, one was.... young. And a bit of a bully in that forcefully clueless way some labs can have.<br /><br />I sat in my car as Bully bolted towards my car - head high, tail waving frantically in a high arc, nearly perpendicular to his back.<br /><br />Artemis stared at the ball his owner threw for the older, sweet lab, silently wishing for the ability to melt through walls so she could be the one to fetch it.<br /><br />Sudo stared hard at Bully through the window, barking a couple of times in that "Hey, a stranger's here, owner, you should be wary" way that shepherds tend to do. I watched her, trying to gauge what she felt. I haven't introduced her to anyone but Artemis yet. <br /><br />Bully's owner glanced up, noticed Bully leaping and circling my car with his too-bright eyes, high head and tail wagging high in the air.....<br /><br />And she waved and returned to throwing the ball to her other dogs.<br /><br />Sudo tracked Bully with her eyes, and let out a soft "go away" growl. <br /><br />Bully circled my car two or three more times, then settled for circling at the back of my car, waiting for me to get out and open the hatch so he could pounce on my dogs the moment they hopped out of his car. What a "friendly" dog.<br /><br />His owner continued to ignore him.<br /><br />I turned my car back on and put my car into reverse and started backing out, not even bothering to pay attention to where Bully was. If he was stupid enough to get run over at 3 mph, it was probably for the best.<br /><br />His owner jumped up and started frantically calling for him as soon as I started I backing up. Apparently she wasn't totally blind. <br /><br />Sudo, Artemis and I went to run at the high school football field instead.<br /><br />I agree. What is it with dog park people?Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09544884349722760099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-45816352322330740402014-11-21T21:58:54.463-07:002014-11-21T21:58:54.463-07:00Yeah dog parks suck.
My first experience with thi...Yeah dog parks suck.<br /><br />My first experience with this was when this woman brought a pack of Afghan dogs to the 2 acre park and let them go. The 5 dogs proceeded to terrorize the entire park and hunted the other dogs. The woman squawked and flapped her arms. The dogs ignored her. I took my dog and left. <br /><br />The entire mindset of the DPN is one of entitlement. The rules don't apply to them or their dogs. <br /><br />MichelleLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-77603706849629096412014-11-21T19:49:55.763-07:002014-11-21T19:49:55.763-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.2 Punk Dogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06373806920604586043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-68902317260727746842014-11-21T19:37:04.345-07:002014-11-21T19:37:04.345-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.2 Punk Dogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06373806920604586043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-86458822433985207662014-11-21T19:37:03.891-07:002014-11-21T19:37:03.891-07:00The last time I heard DWHF I said "yeah, mine...The last time I heard DWHF I said "yeah, mine are kind of A-holes". New neighbors had 2 large plot hounds off leash & collarless that came out of their yard and across the street to get up in Maggie's face. I explained that they don't like other dogs getting too close & Maggie has put other dogs on the ground, to which the guy said "that's how they'll learn." I wish I had said "learn what, how to get bit?" <br />Duke just wanted to head for home, but turned, bulldozed & bit the younger hound when it got too close to me & Maggie. The hound yipped & headed for its yard while the owners grabbed the other one; luckily no one was hurt.<br />The funny thing was my other neighbor yelling "PUT YOUR DOG ON A LEASH!" across the neighborhood at the other dog owners. Love my neighbors. :)2 Punk Dogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06373806920604586043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-10132632564019256872014-11-21T18:26:26.701-07:002014-11-21T18:26:26.701-07:001254I have given up on dog parks. My dog is such ...1254I have given up on dog parks. My dog is such a wuss She thinks she is a big bad tough dog, but when another dog looks funny at her she changes her mind. I had to spend the whole time at the dog part pulling her out of people's laps because she was trying to get away from every dog there (most who just wanted to sniff her butt).paintarabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676883569515282764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-90015028019935249602014-11-21T18:25:04.190-07:002014-11-21T18:25:04.190-07:001254I have given up on dog parks. My dog is such ...1254I have given up on dog parks. My dog is such a wuss She thinks she is a big bad tough dog, but when another dog looks funny at her she changes her mind. I had to spend the whole time at the dog part pulling her out of people's laps because she was trying to get away from every dog there (most who just wanted to sniff her butt).paintarabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676883569515282764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-11670362949436774432014-11-21T11:52:36.071-07:002014-11-21T11:52:36.071-07:00I live in a neighborhood of "dog whisperers&q...I live in a neighborhood of "dog whisperers" who love to have their dogs off leash in their unfenced front yards. I have been bitten by an attacking DWHF dog and my own when I tried to keep the attacking dog off mine. It makes me CRAZY. I am seriously considering getting a cattle prod to poke the DWHF dogs w/.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-9127335379451100362014-11-21T09:05:48.282-07:002014-11-21T09:05:48.282-07:00Same anon here who posted in favor of dog parks.
...Same anon here who posted in favor of dog parks.<br /><br />What Snipe and Lytha said - As a dog owner who had two awesome dogs in the last 16 years, dogs that I could take almost anywhere, I hate the DWHF crowd. <br /><br />They do so much to set back the cause of treating dogs as companions to go places with us instead of pets for the back yard. Their disrespect of other people's feelings about dogs, what seems like willful ignorance that not everyone loves dogs, clueless disregard of leash laws, assumption that because their dog likes people it likes other dogs. It adds up to them being almost as bad for the image of dogs in public as the people who let their dogs run loose, or who like to keep (and brag about) dogs that are dangerous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-16170747141547069552014-11-21T01:59:48.233-07:002014-11-21T01:59:48.233-07:00The version of DWHF that I hate the most is the on...The version of DWHF that I hate the most is the one I hear the most, "Don't worry, he won't do anything." And this is while the dog is approaching, circling, and sometimes feinting, even air-nipping at my horse. "That's not NOTHING," I've learned to say, but mostly I say, "My horse is/I am afraid of dogs." If they grab their dog and leash it, I say Danke. If they don't, I stand between the dog and my horse, which will one day perhaps end badly for me.lythahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01719586193059362084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-40790113218972074182014-11-21T01:26:23.996-07:002014-11-21T01:26:23.996-07:00DWHFs can be frightening even if you don't hav...DWHFs can be frightening even if you don't have a dog with you. My husband and I had a run-in with such a dog when we were skateboarding at a church near our apartment. The property had a large grass field where dog owners would bring their dogs to run around and play fetch. The church was fine with both activities. We were out there one day and a dog owner allowed her dogs to run off leash as she began to walk off the property. We were walking, not skating, but we had our boards with us. The dogs zeroed in on us and began to charge. The woman kept frantically yelling, "Don't worry, he's friendly!" while my husband and I fended off the dogs with our boards. I was using mine as a shield while he had his raised back, ready to strike. The owner came up, maintaining how friendly her dogs were, and leashed and led them away. I don't believe people for one second when they say DWHF. I get ready to defend myself.Snipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09691114613313099716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-45820867209120686822014-11-20T23:20:42.553-07:002014-11-20T23:20:42.553-07:00I remain a believer in dog parks, but it took me y...I remain a believer in dog parks, but it took me years to develop a set of guidelines that I follow (or will follow, I'm dogless at the moment) to keep the experience positive for my dogs. I nearly lost one of my dogs as part of the learning process. <br /><br />It can be a hell of a challenge to make dog park visits work. Sometimes it's just a matter of finding the right time, or the right place in the park. It's always about vigilance, knowing your dog well, and being able to read other dogs well. Add in the ability to leave without having the last word. The last was the hardest for me to develop.<br /><br />The benefits are play and socialization for my dogs with a changing set of playmates, plus opportunities to reinforce that they come to me when there's trouble. It took a lot of work to get there, but instead of me having to call or physically draw them away from potential trouble, both my dogs would run to me if another dog got too snarky around them.<br /><br />Doing that in the dog park and keeping it going as a regular practice made it that much easier to handle 'other people's dogs' problems outside the dog park.<br /><br />All of that's assuming you and your dog, as a team, can handle the dog park. As many of us know from experience, there are people who take their dogs to the park who just don't get that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-86571975461948722792014-11-20T23:04:01.053-07:002014-11-20T23:04:01.053-07:00Blech. I HATE "DWHF" people!! I have a 9...Blech. I HATE "DWHF" people!! I have a 95 lb. pittie mix who is the absolute sweetest with people, and... not so much... with dogs. We are constantly working on it, but I don't trust him off leash, especially with other male (unneutered) dogs. He himself is neutered, but he is really protective of me and has not learned how to back down from a challenge. <br /><br />So I was in the park one day, not a dog park but other people bring their dogs there, some off leash. We were playing frisbee on the long line, and this huge mutt mix just starts running up from over 200 feet away. I reel my guy in, constantly saying "Hey! Get your dog! Bad Dog! NO!" and blocking him from my dog who is now barking. Male dog, laser eyes on my dog, hackles up, tail and ears stiff and high. CLASSIC escalating possible aggression signs. Asshole owner says "don't worry, he's a great dog, won't hurt you!" while STROLLING up to me. Doesn't call his dog when I obviously don't want him near me, doesn't even come up to grab him. He's still 100ft away at this point, his dog is all up in my business. I said.. "my dog WILL hurt him! Can you call him??" "Oh... well... ok. Here dog"- which obviously doesn't work. so he strolls on over to me, grabs his collar and walks away. Let's the dog go about 20 ft away, and he RUNS to my dog and they start to go at it. Then the asshole has the audacity to give ME a dirty look! And tell me to get control of MY dog. I seriously almost lost my crap on him. I did tell him MY dog was the one on the leash, and we packed up and left. I don't need the bad publicity, because my pittie would be blamed. People are stupid. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03731521274456530887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-48946263637307139682014-11-20T20:10:15.402-07:002014-11-20T20:10:15.402-07:00Dog parks. Just the term gives me chills.Dog parks. Just the term gives me chills.Muppethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17442210791638198757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-17347739162839487542014-11-20T16:53:17.056-07:002014-11-20T16:53:17.056-07:00I took my dog walking one day on a leash only trai...I took my dog walking one day on a leash only trail. She had fear aggression issues (had them when I got her, they had gotten better but where never fully fixed) but I could walk her past another dog without her losing it. I had a lady come past me with a very friendly dog and ask if they could "meet" I said "No my dog doesn't do well with other dogs" She immediately glared at me and said that "Well if she's not friendly with other dogs you shouldn't have her out where she might meet up with one" and promptly left.<br /><br />My jaw was on the ground... seriously? She was on a leash, was under control but no I don't let her play with other dogs she doesn't know as her play can quickly turn if she feels that I am threatened or herself is threatened.... duhValeriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699714436159771631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-36936537456931063262014-11-20T14:38:06.934-07:002014-11-20T14:38:06.934-07:00Ugh. Yes.
I have one dog (a really scary looking...Ugh. Yes. <br /><br />I have one dog (a really scary looking beagle) who was attacked at a dog park as a puppy and is now fear aggressive. He only goes out on a leash with me and I HATEHATEHATE the "DWHF" crowd.<br /><br />Hullo. Mine isn't. Go away. <br /><br />The corgi is a well socialized little bastard and the two of us work to keep other dogs from approaching the third, but I am not above yelling at/kicking a strange dog in front of it's stupid owner. <br /><br />Nope. I'm not on your property and I am well within my right to defend myself. SprinklerBandithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02948487857418394022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-53869536813518100582014-11-20T14:26:29.232-07:002014-11-20T14:26:29.232-07:00People are so crazy. I am glad both you and Brockl...People are so crazy. I am glad both you and Brockle are okay.<br /><br />The woe of dog parks and moronic owners is written across dog blogs far and wide. If you haven't run across the lovely, snarky bitches at thedogsnobs.com, you should check them out sometime. I don't agree with everything they have to say, but they've got their heads on straight and are not afraid to laugh at themselves and other people.<br /><br />Good luck with the new practice spaces.Staceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02633249028174585430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-12296708598109361142014-11-20T14:16:58.234-07:002014-11-20T14:16:58.234-07:00I loved my last dog. She was an aussie or border ...I loved my last dog. She was an aussie or border collie and German Shepard mix. Smartest dog I have ever owned....atheletic, brave and protective. She was also a rescue and not well socalized as a puppy. I have a feeling she sat in somoeone's back yard or on a chain alone for her entire first year. We did tons of work with her to socialize her and she was very obedient. There are few things I would never trust her with:<br /><br />1. Kids alone<br />2. Other animals/dogs alone<br />3. Dog Parks<br /><br />Even when you know your dog and their limitations there will always be a risk that someone else just doesn't get it. I was always too worried about any litagation that would have put my dog in harm's way.Fyyahchildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09680300099730314108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-81722402313263835922014-11-20T14:11:02.321-07:002014-11-20T14:11:02.321-07:00This is why I never allow my dog off leash, and ne...This is why I never allow my dog off leash, and never EVER go to dog parks. <br /><br />It's not the other dogs. It's their owners.jenjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01737679332792618499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-54838066489679825182014-11-20T13:04:12.462-07:002014-11-20T13:04:12.462-07:00I have the same trouble walking down our country r...I have the same trouble walking down our country road. It doesn't help that too many people have totally untrained dogs. I used to not have so much trouble when my large, protective Aussie was still alive. Now I have a smallish elderly dog and I've had to train a Mastiff cross and pit bull to not run at me full tilt, and a (unneutered) pit bull lab cross, who I had to threaten with a big stick a couple of times before he decided he would stop running at my dog and I, growling, hackles raised and seemingly with the intention of ripping something to shreds. I keep meaning to get some mace. A jogger was killed by a pair of Mastiff's not far from me this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-62171485600187177252014-11-20T12:57:22.312-07:002014-11-20T12:57:22.312-07:00I'm sort of done with being an avoider and a s...I'm sort of done with being an avoider and a smoother-over. If someone's dog comes at mine and into our space, I am okay with them teaching it a lesson. I expect the same to happen when my puppy-mill-reject of a Siberian sticks her nose where it doesn't belong. She's slow on the uptake, but getting faster. And, she's starting to listen to my advice before she goes leaping in. Funny how that works.<br /><br />If someone desperately wants their obviously troubled dog to meet mine, I've started telling them "Your dog is rude. Take him away."<br /><br />My biggest problem is while running in the city. I like to run in the poor parts of town. The more run down and "scary" the better. Most of the dogs in that area are chained if they are aggressive, and the ones who roam have learned their socialization skills and leave us alone. It's the pampered pets of the rich part of town that cause the real problems. They chase us into the street, some playful and some snarling. Often the owners don't even notice, and never do they have control over the dogs. If the dog chasing is aggressive, I've often found myself darting through heavy traffic to get away. I'd hate to be the reason a dog gets hit by a car, but I would hate watching myself or my dogs get attacked more.Austenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004088333430762406noreply@blogger.com