tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post7226733193084236880..comments2024-01-03T03:28:48.980-07:00Comments on mugwump Chronicles: Ouch!Mugwumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01487540636265322556noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-31972627696141418882012-01-10T09:38:42.803-07:002012-01-10T09:38:42.803-07:00Becky
HA, perfect! I know a couple of women who...Becky <br /><br />HA, perfect! I know a couple of women who look just like that picture you put in my mind! Maybe that's why I hang out with mostly geldings...flyin'horsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712046674798145103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-50033741486141100672012-01-08T12:49:29.252-07:002012-01-08T12:49:29.252-07:00Looking forward to what's next.
I too liked ...Looking forward to what's next. <br /><br />I too liked the variety of experience and attitude that the Fugly blog attracted.Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15597630887713954960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-4935217041686207112012-01-07T16:53:42.918-07:002012-01-07T16:53:42.918-07:00Hmmm - I thought Aegle's post was thoughtful a...Hmmm - I thought Aegle's post was thoughtful and well written. I didn't see any "slamming" of anyone. She did point out a few things that are <i>true</i>, and when you reach a certain age, you're supposed to have learned from things and to do them better than you used to. I guess you just have to reach a certain level of maturity to have enough perspective to see that.LadyFarriernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-84808508023817675732012-01-06T09:04:57.721-07:002012-01-06T09:04:57.721-07:00If we all go back to what we all know, the day you...If we all go back to what we all know, the day you stop learning is the day you die, then we can all share and learn from each other.Mrs. Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07266163739057893568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-85601299457592870662012-01-06T05:20:51.289-07:002012-01-06T05:20:51.289-07:00Mugwumpians - I like that. I don't think we wi...Mugwumpians - I like that. I don't think we will get too big over here. <br /><br />The people who are comfortable on this blog ten to be the kind I like to ride with. <br /><br />Into their horses, not into what impression they make...<br /><br />The more I think about it, the more I think simply ignoring out of line comments is the way to go.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-47116707617107118832012-01-06T01:20:18.229-07:002012-01-06T01:20:18.229-07:00I didn't actually read ANY of the comments on ...I didn't actually read ANY of the comments on that post, and haven't read these yet. I'll go back through, but my opinion before that:<br /><br />Fugly attracted all sorts.<br /><br />I stopped reading Fugly Horse of the Day comments a LOOONG time ago, after she had gotten away from the original focus of the blog and attracted a larger and "different" audience. <br /><br />I think the premise should be this, for this blog and any that doesn't want to disintegrate into the Fugly craziness:<br />IF I WAS AT THE SAME PARTY WITH THESE HORSE PEOPLE, WHAT WOULD I SAY?<br /><br />In other words, tact. Compassion. Acknowledgement of human failings, one's one failings, and the wisdom to stay quiet "when you don't know any better", and asking appropriate questions "when you don't know any better."<br /><br />It is great to expand readership, it is good to have different points of views. But it is difficult to wade through tons and tons of comments, especially ones that don't really serve to enrich *anyone's* life. <br /><br />Is it the type of discussion that would peak your interest at the horse party, or a cue that you are going to wander out to the barn to see the host's horses because the human element of the party has gotten a little too over the top?<br /><br />I sent in a Mouthy Monday submission the other day, and almost immediately thought to send a retraction request. I was leery of the large readership over here.<br /><br />Many of us found Mugwump Chronicles through FuglyHorseoftheday.blogspot.com. There are possibly many who would fit in wonderfully with the original readership of THIS blog before Mugs' writing stint over on Fuglyblog.com, and those we all welcome.<br /><br />Frankly, if a newer readers would read past posts and comments of The Mugwump Chronicles and see if their idea of following a blog fits with what's here, honest and introspective discussions held with tact and compassion, then welcome and please stay and the more the merrier.<br /><br />If a new reader is more into sensationalism and watching reactions to themselves, or instigating mayhem with little point and less tact, please recognize that most readers here would rather you not comment. <br /><br />Or at least that's my preference, but I think I do speak for most Mugwumpians.<br /><br />=)Bifhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07648037666735227722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-42730551691662566912012-01-05T20:40:20.679-07:002012-01-05T20:40:20.679-07:00We all have an opinion about how and when to deal ...We all have an opinion about how and when to deal with our horses. Some head straight for the trainer, and some would never even consider it. Lots of people are somewhere in between. Opinions run the gamut when it comes to breeds, tack, riding discipline, blanketing, even hand feeding treats :) To say that my way is the only way, and to be insulting in doing so, is childish and useless. If you don't agree, and can't say so without being mean, then it may be best to keep that opinion to yourself. I like hearing from people who have a position 180 out from my own. I have been riding since I was a little kid, I have never worked with a trainer or attended a clinic, but I have learned a lot from other people, including some half my age with considerably less experience than I have. The reality is that there is no ONE method that will work on every horse. The great thing about Blogs and Forums is the opportunity to learn from each other, but it gets difficult when folks get nasty.luvredponieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832081405315953399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-32137167793144257032012-01-05T18:35:29.479-07:002012-01-05T18:35:29.479-07:00Mort Mort Mort!
Tally Tally Tally!
Leland Leland ...Mort Mort Mort!<br />Tally Tally Tally!<br />Leland Leland Leland!<br />Sonorita(sp?) Sonorita Sonorita!<br />Kidlette Kiddlette Kidlet!<br />Big K Big K Big K!<br />Enough already.<br /><br />p.s. Mugs, remember that terrible tool you were forced to use on Cupcake? We have a horse here that needs that desparately. He has one undescended not cut off at his gelding and was never socialized properly with other horses or humans. Otherwise he is on his way to Mexico for training or worse.<br />Gorgeous looker and mover in a masterful hand. I am in Cupertino, CA. Anyone locally can help?deedee sonnyduo@yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-30288705477008883902012-01-05T15:54:39.301-07:002012-01-05T15:54:39.301-07:00I'd hate to see comments censored, if only tha...I'd hate to see comments censored, if only that critiques are valuable! In this case it wasn't appreciated or thought of as helpful, but in so many cases having an opposing viewpoint to play off of can strengthen your writing/ storytelling's skills.<br /> In this case, the story came off as anti-trainer (at least at first blush) to many readers. If I had written it and kept getting people thinking that when I didn't mean to convey that, I'd take another look at my story and see what I need to do in the future to be clearer. <br /> I dunno, maybe it's my art background speaking here. There's nothing more maddening to an artist than hearing "It's nice." when asking someone what they think about what they've just made.Beatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15908647005878694680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-22456729466954588162012-01-05T14:46:54.161-07:002012-01-05T14:46:54.161-07:00I love this forum. Would like to share something f...I love this forum. Would like to share something from my professional life that might help in the discussion here. <br /><br />When you use <b>"you should"</b> with someone even when trying to help, they often feel <b>"should upon."</b>:D<br /><br />We all have thing that we would go back and change and many that we would not. At 45, I had a horse/life changing experience that I wish I'd had when I was 25. I often think back on how it might have changed or improved my horsemanship. But hindsight is 20/20 and now I try to learn and share as best I can.Mrs. Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07266163739057893568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-86415427384219399682012-01-05T14:11:57.054-07:002012-01-05T14:11:57.054-07:00Flyin--I thought those were some of our best trait...Flyin--I thought those were some of our best traits.<br /><br />Becky--that too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-36203331941181216542012-01-05T14:00:34.662-07:002012-01-05T14:00:34.662-07:00Calm, Forward and Straight -We can comment anywher...Calm, Forward and Straight -We can comment anywhere....what has always worked before and is probably the easiest solution is to simply ignore commenters who rub the wrong way. Eventually they either play nice or fade away....mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-14487154446314730872012-01-05T13:27:28.939-07:002012-01-05T13:27:28.939-07:00FlyinHorse:
It's because, over time, all hors...FlyinHorse:<br /><br />It's because, over time, all horsewomen slowly evolve into grumpy alpha mares that just happen to walk on two legs - the kind of pissy looking mare that thinks everyone is trying to steal their feed and pin their ears at everyone in sight.<br /><br />It's an unfortunate side effect of being horseaii.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03664511837713972115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-19628090134808157512012-01-05T13:03:57.464-07:002012-01-05T13:03:57.464-07:00Well, I'm going to have to go back and read wh...Well, I'm going to have to go back and read what went on. I did have a niggling feeling I came across a little snippy to Aegle, but I felt A's "story" was just that, a story that was interesting to read and brought back memories.<br /><br />There's all kinds of horse blogs, part of why I like this one is because the quality of the writing.mysanityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14307892727694921058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-85745202669541540272012-01-05T12:10:37.002-07:002012-01-05T12:10:37.002-07:00Here's something we could talk about in the fu...Here's something we could talk about in the future that has to do with this same topic. Why, in the world of horses, and horsewomen in particular, are there so many women who are opinionated, hardheaded, stubborn, egotistical and plain old pains-in-the-rear? When I meet a new horsewoman and she seems to be none of the above, I find myself saying "I met a really nice gal today and she seems so normal"! Ha! I do have a handful of women friends that I enjoy riding with and am proud to call friends so I'm not totally hard to please! Just wondering if anybody else finds this to be true and what their thoughts are on it. Or should I have put this in the mind meld section mugs?flyin'horsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712046674798145103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-25506678764467907802012-01-05T11:14:22.385-07:002012-01-05T11:14:22.385-07:00Hmmmm...
In this medium especially, I believe it ...Hmmmm...<br /><br />In this medium especially, I believe it is judicious not to assume people are out to get you when they express a differing opinion. Even if they aren't the most tactful writers, you may come off as being defensive. This dynamic often leads to all out communication breakdown... and cursing. ;) <br /><br />Mouth closed - ears open, and definitely sit on a post for a while if you're feeling a little het up. I'd hate to see even the tiniest bit of censorship here. <br /><br />For the record - didn't want to bury this in the last post - I would give anything to have regular access to a trainer. It's three plus hours to the nearest one. Just lost mine of four years to the economy. <br /><br />That said, since working on my own, there's been a super positive shift in my riding and relationship with my horse - breakthrough city. It's all good. :)Calm, Forward, Straighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360276614916635500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-72868516625989311102012-01-05T08:49:55.596-07:002012-01-05T08:49:55.596-07:00fly'n horse- that's my point...a post idea...fly'n horse- that's my point...a post idea from a story is one thing...but the stories are just stories to read and enjoy.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-82933958740482060922012-01-05T08:37:04.318-07:002012-01-05T08:37:04.318-07:00I am pretty torn after reading yesterday's and...I am pretty torn after reading yesterday's and today's posts also! Always been my problem; in my experience most things are not black and white but many shades of grey. I think A's reaction (kiss my ass or something similar?) was due to the fact that the story was very personal to her and she didn't expect to hear criticism about it. Maybe the Mouthy Monday feature should be off limits for criticism? The writers are using their personal experiences and creating a story out of them purely for the entertainment, enjoyment, inspirational value etc for others aren't they? That's the way I've always approached the reader's stories anyway.flyin'horsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712046674798145103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-5031572134175188122012-01-05T07:43:56.438-07:002012-01-05T07:43:56.438-07:00anon- glad you like my stories....this blog attrac...anon- glad you like my stories....this blog attracts us new age sensitive types, we like each other a lot and are just fine with our thin skins.<br />Part of what changed the Chronicles from a blog to a community is the fact we address things that bother us. <br />I'll jump in to defend whoever I feel the need to. <br />The rest of the bloggers will do the same.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-51729564597451394632012-01-05T07:05:57.442-07:002012-01-05T07:05:57.442-07:00Alexis (and the community at large) please grow a ...Alexis (and the community at large) please grow a thicker skin. You can't please everyone. I really love mugs stories but can't stand when discussions/blogs are wasted on hurt feelings. Life isn't fair. People are rude. Now lets move on to something interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-16684329015051124992012-01-05T05:40:09.066-07:002012-01-05T05:40:09.066-07:00I loved A's post, it gave me goosebumps. I th...I loved A's post, it gave me goosebumps. I think that I (my body and mind) still have to figure out how to do stuff, even with an instructor. I do almost all of my own riding, but really get a lot of benefit from coaching. Sometimes I will totally fail to comprehend or communicate to the horse what the lesson/point/technique was supposed to be, but usually sometime in the next week, it will (usually) come together. I think it has to do with muscle (or brain) memory of all the years that I have done it "my way" it just takes a while to overcome that.burdfourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02625759593362599884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-61112959488293515462012-01-05T01:20:35.495-07:002012-01-05T01:20:35.495-07:00A community forum for our island of 4,000 people h...A community forum for our island of 4,000 people has this rule stated in the header -<br /><br />"Please keep your comments civil. Don't attack others personally, and keep your language decent."<br /><br />The owner of the forum is the arbitrator of what crosses those lines. Sometimes keeping it simple is best.Hollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-6484143425748136582012-01-04T19:58:55.132-07:002012-01-04T19:58:55.132-07:00I went back and reread her story and couldn't ...I went back and reread her story and couldn't figure out why in the world anyone would have nasty comments to make. There's no way I'm reading through 67 comments but people need to get over themselves. Everyone has a different opinion. She wasn't saying "all trainers suck and no one should use one," she was simply saying what worked for her.<br /> As far as needing trainers, a trainer can only take a rider so far. I've seen people that have been taking lessons for years and still can't ride very well. I personally know someone that has gone through four trainers in the time that I've known her and she simply can't get it right. She can't feel the horse. So just because something works for one person, doesn't mean it's going to work for all. At another forum where it is heavily moderated and everyone plays nice, the moderator tells them they must behave as if they were speaking to each other in their living room, and when they have a differing opinion, you say "this is how I do it," you don't attack a person's ideas or way of doing things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-65250278560572908882012-01-04T18:19:59.785-07:002012-01-04T18:19:59.785-07:00You're on the right track. I agree that it wo...You're on the right track. I agree that it would be better to say, "what worked for me..." instead of "THIS is the way it's done."<br /><br />What's so important to me about this blog, is that we seem to be able to share thoughts and stories that we have deep feelings about. It's easy to get your nose out of joint when someone attacks a belief you're very emotional about. It's also hard to remember that when you're being flippant or snarky. I didn't mean that to sound preachy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-25467203204523109732012-01-04T18:14:07.458-07:002012-01-04T18:14:07.458-07:00I love a good debate, and on things I feel strongl...I love a good debate, and on things I feel strongly about, I enjoy the banter with people who think differently.<br /><br />I really enjoy your writing, your stories and the bits of training advice I pick up. I don't always read the comments (except scrolling through for yours) because some folks are so one-way in their thoughts, and take things so personally.<br /><br />I'm a big girl, almost 52 years old, and I don't have to be right all the time, nor do I have to convince others that there is a better way. I look forward to some good discussion :)Lucky SChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02056852038260236772noreply@blogger.com