tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post4836631191405090627..comments2024-01-03T03:28:48.980-07:00Comments on mugwump Chronicles: WTH is Brockle?Mugwumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01487540636265322556noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-71739448800119814072015-02-04T14:07:18.793-07:002015-02-04T14:07:18.793-07:00I'd like to chime in and say that while prick ...I'd like to chime in and say that while prick ears might be a genetic recessive, whether or not ears stand reliably run along a continuum, so you may have breeds, lines and/or ear shapes that are very close to being pricked, and making a cross to a dog with overall heavier cartilage production can push these borderline ears upright. It's especially telling when there are specific charts related to ear faults in a breed.<br /><br />You hear about many GSDs having issues with getting one or both ears to stand properly and not break over, and owners agonise for months about whether or not they will stand. If a break happens for too long, the cartilage will adapt and the break will be permanent, even if it eventually gets thick enough to support an upright ear. Swelling due to teething, hormonal changes, and diet seem to all play a part in this.<br /><br />Conversely, it does not take much oomph for rose ears in sighthounds to become pricked or upright, and border collies' ears do all sorts of crazy things and may change for the first two years before they settle into any sort of reliability.<br /><br />http://www.bordercolliecolors.com/bordercolliecolors.ears.htmlStaceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02633249028174585430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-50940525931493862492015-02-04T10:17:22.429-07:002015-02-04T10:17:22.429-07:00And people have dogs they call "heelers' ...And people have dogs they call "heelers' that are actually crosses of Australian Cattle Dog and beagle, JRT, Australian Shepherd, etc. Because the mask, bentley spot, and ticking tend to come through on a cross...and people have invented breeds such as Bealer (Beagle/Heeler) and Texas Heeler (ACD/Australian Shepherd)...SO and I just had the discussion the other day, if someone tells you they have a Heeler with a naturally bobbed tail...there is Aussie in there somewhere. ACD's can have "stumpy" tails, but not natural bobs. Anyhow. I see Aussie in there somewhere, but could be other "shepherd" I suppose :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-30300112838787177082015-02-04T09:17:23.366-07:002015-02-04T09:17:23.366-07:00Hmmmm. . . This is tough. My sister has a puppy fr...Hmmmm. . . This is tough. My sister has a puppy from a reservation rescue program. The mom looks like a black lab but the owners claimed she was a border collie cross and the pup's dad was a GSD cross. <br /><br />One of the adopted pups is obviously a GSD cross, from her ears, to her markings, to her size. Not quite "pure" but hard for the layperson to describe why. <br /><br />My sister's pup looks exactly like a golden retriever, except he is black. He has thick wavy hair, feathers, a beautiful thick tail, and the same deep sweet face. His temperment is like a young doltish golden retriever, all legs and eagerness to please, if a little "slow". <br /><br />So I am going to guess that Brockle has <br />- a German Shepard grandparent, <br />- Some collie blood, most likely an Australian Shepard parent as they are popular right now, but maybe English Shepard, <br />- In addition to above, some Border Collie blood back there,<br />- A little bit of lurcher - most likely greyhound. <br />- Blue heeler or Australian cattle dog in the mix wouldn't surprise me at all given his difficult/demanding temperment. <br /><br />If I really wanted to cover my bases, I'd say there's pitbull in there as well, because let's face it, a ridiculous number of the "indiscriminate" dogs in the states are either chihauhaus or pitbulls. PonyFannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-21845318892215014752015-02-04T08:34:24.012-07:002015-02-04T08:34:24.012-07:00Oh yes, there's a prize.... Go back and read G...Oh yes, there's a prize.... Go back and read Guess What I Got?mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-55762885727917369422015-02-04T07:19:08.235-07:002015-02-04T07:19:08.235-07:00My guess would be, GSD X Collie on one side, Borzo...My guess would be, GSD X Collie on one side, Borzoi on the other.<br /><br />Any prizes for correct guesses when the DNA results come back?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12991486090097778292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-48054083279740270482015-02-04T04:38:13.393-07:002015-02-04T04:38:13.393-07:00I'm going to go totally off the rails and say ...I'm going to go totally off the rails and say he has GSD (black or sable instead of b&t, can carry mask) or Tervuren or Malinois, border collie or australian shepherd, and Heeler. <br /><br />I have a pound puppy that I'm trying to figure out right now too. I find puzzles like this interesting. Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776429933353741590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-73636804666745950892015-02-04T02:17:40.077-07:002015-02-04T02:17:40.077-07:00I keep seeing some spaniel in there. Undocked Spri...I keep seeing some spaniel in there. Undocked Springers have that tail and coat, and can be insanely drivey.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-50702288453389661552015-02-03T23:18:04.001-07:002015-02-03T23:18:04.001-07:00I'm thinking "poorly-bred collie": t...I'm thinking "poorly-bred collie": that predominant white thing shows up there...doesn't mean the dog is bad, just the coloring is undesirable for show. I have a sheltie from a poorly-bred color background and she's a lovely dog, but her excessive white and blue eyes on a "sable" is unacceptable for show.<br /><br />So my guess is excessive-white collie and tervern (which I cannot spell and you cannot make me)AareneXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18072169739345465380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-439499235813078712015-02-03T23:18:03.424-07:002015-02-03T23:18:03.424-07:00I'm thinking "poorly-bred collie": t...I'm thinking "poorly-bred collie": that predominant white thing shows up there...doesn't mean the dog is bad, just the coloring is undesirable for show. I have a sheltie from a poorly-bred color background and she's a lovely dog, but her excessive white and blue eyes on a "sable" is unacceptable for show.<br /><br />So my guess is excessive-white collie and tervern (which I cannot spell and you cannot make me)AareneXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18072169739345465380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-3846952321177203092015-02-03T18:28:08.258-07:002015-02-03T18:28:08.258-07:00Does he by chance have dewclaws on the hind legs, ...Does he by chance have dewclaws on the hind legs, or double dewclaws? jenjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01737679332792618499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-44604319480814254372015-02-03T17:17:03.696-07:002015-02-03T17:17:03.696-07:00Alright. Here I thought just your stories were cli...Alright. Here I thought just your stories were cliffhangers that left me waiting (very impatiently) for more! Now you've got me hooked on the Brockle saga as well. My money is still on collie for part (again, in large part fueled by his physical and behavioral similarities to my young collie boy) but I no longer think German shepherd. I really like the borzoi and tervuren ideas, though it seems unlikely that those relatively exotic breeds would manage to be in there. Amazing too, how known crosses of certain breeds can look so drastically different from their parents and amcestors. <br />Lastly, I was a biology major and practice medicine and am sorry to say that genetics STILL makes my head hurt a little. <br /><br />JenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-58313432839137320452015-02-03T16:30:06.514-07:002015-02-03T16:30:06.514-07:00This is interesting. You've made some good co...This is interesting. You've made some good comparisons, andI can't wait to hear more about his behavior!<br />kbryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18187720440354808348noreply@blogger.com