tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post2988746447466251839..comments2024-01-03T03:28:48.980-07:00Comments on mugwump Chronicles: Closing In On It...Mugwumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01487540636265322556noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-32539689324654783292021-05-11T01:02:36.384-06:002021-05-11T01:02:36.384-06:00Hi There,
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WTF is wrong with the...Love the boxer from 1900! :)<br />WTF is wrong with the breeder of the merle collie?!? Looks like a member of the krazy kolor breeders club. I remember when breed organizations didn't allow dogs with more than a certain percentage of white to be registered due to the likelihood of dogs with hearing or sight issues. <br />Nothing against color, our mutts are mostly white with red or brindle faces and freckles . Can't believe how many people asked if we were breeding them, um, NO, they're both spayed/neutered. There are plenty of other street dogs in PR where they came from. :)2 Punk Dogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06373806920604586043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-42389674569557388382013-03-29T22:42:43.970-06:002013-03-29T22:42:43.970-06:00Fair argument for show dogs.
I worked for a kenn...Fair argument for show dogs. <br /><br />I worked for a kennel who bred and trained field labs. The breeder did all of the recommended health screening. He even did xrays on non breeding (neutered) dogs just to see. All of his dogs were sound and healthy. They were great hunters who would work tirelessly all day. They were high energy but managed well and easy to handle. None of his dogs suffered from skin problems or allergies either. His dogs had some flaws that would have kept them from winning shows but the were decent looking labs. I'm not sure if it was done on purpose or just something he was willing to over look but his dogs had just slightly perkier and smaller ears than the show dogs who had the beautiful heart shaped dropped ears. He could have been allowing that trait to persist or selecting for it to help avoid ear infections never asked. He was a good breeder.<br /><br />Lots of the show dogs around here have health issues. Allergies and skin problems are aweful! Plenty of these dogs need to be kept on a very specific diet because of it. They need special shampoo at the groomers and one particular little cairn needs to wear socks in the summer because he is so allergic to grass he breaks out in hives all over his body if he touches it with his bare skinned feet.<br />Even with the xrays and health certification you can still get a dog showing up with dysplasia. It's not like hypp where they either have it or they don't. It's a graded condition with a range from perfectly sound to completely dysplastic. If you breed two good dogs together you can get dogs with better or worse joints just by luck of the draw. That's why they have to keep testing for it and why they'll never truly get rid of hip/elbow dysplasia. (is it graded with letters? It's been a while...)<br /><br />My best friend bought a dog from a highly recommended newfoundland dog breeders. Her puppy was gorgeous but she ended up needing $5000 worth in surgeries to fix her. Then they ended up loosing her to a bone cancer shortly after her last surgery. When they called her breeder they found out she wasn't the first one of her dogs to die early from that kind of cancer.<br /><br />Cindy I kinda wonder if the breeder you got your show dogs from is keeping dual champion dogs as his/her breeding dogs. If he is he's AWESOME :) dual champions meaning they win shows and field trials. Those are special dogs and special breeders. They're pretty much gone here. There are very few people breeding pure bred dogs here compared to 20 years ago when our little city was a hot bed for everything dog. The golden days according to my boss. Now all we have are shorkiepoomaltipoms which are also very rarely healthy.<br />I haven't been counting but it seems like a very, very high percentage of the small mixes we see have loose patella, wonky knees that pop, clunk and move in a terrible way. Anyway....this is getting really long so I should wrap it up :)<br />I'm going to try my hand as a breeder... But I'll be trying with chickens... So excited! Lol! <br /><br />greenienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-25946145878935698002013-03-29T21:37:00.142-06:002013-03-29T21:37:00.142-06:00And PonyFan - Thanks! I'm a fan of Terrierman...And PonyFan - Thanks! I'm a fan of Terrierman too, and have never read any of that into his words. <br /><br />He does like to provoke thought! And he has his favorite topics, but they are far from women and gays. In fact, he put up a support post this week. Dogs don't care if you are gay. !!!<br /><br />RE: Stewart Brand, long before Jobs, he said “Stay hungry. Stay foolish.” I wonder if I still have my copy of The Whole Earth Catalog. Pre-internet connections!Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15597630887713954960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-3897949848861374932013-03-29T21:23:50.642-06:002013-03-29T21:23:50.642-06:00I know a breeder of Goldens whose dog's coats ...I know a breeder of Goldens whose dog's coats go to the ground. Great, silky haired flouf-balls. <br /><br />They are both pretty and friendly - but they are utterly impracticable - even as pets - in a busy, normal income household. Who has time to brush the dog every day? Very sad. Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15597630887713954960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-18284413182672066252013-03-29T14:56:27.024-06:002013-03-29T14:56:27.024-06:00Notafollower- you are absolutely correct in what y...Notafollower- you are absolutely correct in what you said. It is "drive" that the field dogs are bred for. Drive which sometimes can be perceived as down right neurotic if not properly channeled. My old guy is like that. Even now at his age, with a ton of good training, and always in pain, he is mentally hyper and will push himself further than he should just to get to "go". Afterwards he pays the price. I can just imagine what he was like as a young dog. <br /><br />My other dogs are more of what some people call a "light switch dog". They can transform from mellow to energetic with nothing more than a "are you ready?" from me. <br /><br />Some people prefer those high energy dogs, I am not one of those people. <br /><br />What you said about problems not showing up until after dogs are bred is also correct which is why there is testing which can be done at an early age. That is what OFA and Optigen testing is for. To identify these genetic issues before they reach breeding age. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617546413512282387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-35802112075091891492013-03-29T11:40:20.103-06:002013-03-29T11:40:20.103-06:00To Cindy D's comment about field vs show. That...To Cindy D's comment about field vs show. That's another thing I've seen. Some field lines are bred primarily for drive. If a dog has high drive, it will push beyond the limitations of its body. A responsible breeder, for show or field, will look for long life and soundness, but if the problems don't show up until the dog is more than five years old, it's probably already been bred.<br /><br />I've seen field dogs of several breeds that had conformation flaws that would limit their physical capabilities, but they had such drive that they out-performed 'correct' dogs that had low to average drive.NotAFollowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134003148196639993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-21361337469586980642013-03-29T10:39:10.754-06:002013-03-29T10:39:10.754-06:00Greenie,
The reason I said that the hunting lab w...Greenie, <br />The reason I said that the hunting lab will be crippled at an earlier age than the show lab is from experience. <br /><br />I have 2 show labs and one "hunting" lab. My hunting dog is about ten and can barely walk. He has severe elbow and hip displaysia. He is in constant pain and is on meds for the rest of his life. On the other hand, my show dogs will have neither of these issues at that age. I know this because I know their parents and grandparents (and even further back than that) have all been OFA certified for clear hips and elbows. The grand sire of one of my dogs not only was listed by the the Canine Review as the top producing Labrador of 2012, he received his working dog certificate in field trial work at the ripe old age of 10. When you compare that with my 10 year old "hunting lab" who can barely walk around the block...well you can see why I said what I said. But it isn't just my experience. <br /><br />Every time I take my dogs to the vet for shots, my vet says to me, "I wish the lab breeders in this state bred healthy dogs like this." He is referring to my show dogs. What he says is that the field trial breeders (in WY anyways) rarely worry about displaysia, eye problems, heart defects, or epilepsy. When he worked in CO he did OFA xrays every single week. In WY he he does maybe one a month, but he does sell an awful lot of Rhimodyl. <br /><br />My issue is not that that the field trial breeders prefer a dog that (to me) resembles a greyhound, my issue is that they breed for a high energy dog that can hunt, without taking into account long term soundness. In my experience, most show lab breeders, are now breeding for the full package; looks, athleticism, long term health,natural hunting instincts, and companionship. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617546413512282387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-19973600950302689722013-03-29T06:22:53.324-06:002013-03-29T06:22:53.324-06:00I'm really enjoying going through your thought...I'm really enjoying going through your thoughts. Keep it up...<br /><br />KimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-44147692939087399742013-03-29T05:53:43.879-06:002013-03-29T05:53:43.879-06:00BTW Greenie, great points, all of them. There are ...BTW Greenie, great points, all of them. There are some dog breeds I'm very fond of on the endangered breed list. Old English Sheep dogs are in trouble and both English and Gordon Setters. I've always liked Setters (even Irish), but they're very active, slow to mature and hairy.They are working dogs without many places to work anymore.<br />When I was a kid we had Jud, a Golden. He was dark red, about 55 pounds, medium long hair and very intelligent. Goldens were unusual, people thought he was a crappy Irish Setter.<br />The only recognizable feature I see in most Goldens today is his sweetness.<br />There are field Goldens still, who look like the dogs of my childhood. They're sound, healthy, hard to find and not as cancer prone.They don't have those weird bubble heads either.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-14533746757617406872013-03-29T05:05:30.383-06:002013-03-29T05:05:30.383-06:00Greenie - As far as I'm concerned, and therefo...Greenie - As far as I'm concerned, and therefore, the blog, these posts and the ensuing conversations are about WHAT'S being said, not HOW it's being said.<br />I like to read ideas and arguments, from what I've seen the grammar police don't have many worth paying attention to.mugwumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00319060800328355056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-28194172535462433922013-03-28T23:02:59.815-06:002013-03-28T23:02:59.815-06:00I wish there was an edit button... I re-read my po...I wish there was an edit button... I re-read my posts before I post them but there's always so many mistakes I miss anyway... darn it lol...<br />Sorry mugs....greenienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-14378321869208156692013-03-28T22:54:37.964-06:002013-03-28T22:54:37.964-06:00Very cool mugs, I love this article! Especially th...Very cool mugs, I love this article! Especially the photo comparisons. I saw the early golden retriever photo and went ooooooooo I like. I was looking for a field bred golden before we found our current "dingos". I think it's safe to say modern dogs came from something like dingos and of course they came from something slightly less dingos and slightly move wolf like... And so on...<br /> One thing we haven't talked about is the extinction of breeds. We seem to have this illusion that dogs are the way they always been and it's just not the truth. I think there was even a dog specifically bred to turn a spit, a turnspit dog would run inside a wheel turning a roast cooking over a fire. It disappeared when we found a better way. <br /><br />Now someone above said the show labs are better hunters than the field labs and that the field labs would be crippled by the age of five.... That seems bizarre to me, why would that be? My experience is the opposite with the field dogs having much better stamina, health and hunting instincts. The show labs I have seen have been much lower energy, easier going and more suited for family life. Which is great because that's what most people want in a dog. Most people don't need a field dog. <br /><br />Apparently wolves and coyotes are crossing in eastern Canada because the wolf population is very low and when they're in "the mood" all they can find are coyotes. I can't reference that but I've heard it a few times. greenienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-44794310015365937182013-03-28T17:35:20.822-06:002013-03-28T17:35:20.822-06:00Loving these last posts Mugs.
A good rule of thu...Loving these last posts Mugs. <br /><br />A good rule of thumb regarding genetic manipulation (and many other questions)... <br /><br />just because you <i>can</i>, doesn't mean you <i>should</i>.Calm, Forward, Straighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08360276614916635500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-29867052715432867792013-03-28T16:18:41.958-06:002013-03-28T16:18:41.958-06:00Book recommendation: How the Dog Became the Dog, b...Book recommendation: How the Dog Became the Dog, by Mark Derr. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-37841118541891678712013-03-28T15:16:06.786-06:002013-03-28T15:16:06.786-06:00I have got to stop letting one persons comment get...I have got to stop letting one persons comment get to me like they do. Sheesh! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617546413512282387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-41966522856100075162013-03-28T15:12:27.820-06:002013-03-28T15:12:27.820-06:00@ Anon March 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM
Terrierman snipi...@ Anon March 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM<br /><br />Terrierman sniping against women and gays? I think you need a finely tuned "ear" to get the most out of terrierman's blog, because he has a dry sense of humour and loves sharp sarcasm. He's very much about equality and equal rights; he does tend to snipe about stereotypes, ie, the childless woman, and the effeminate gay man. I'd recommend you read again, and try to imagine that the blog is being read aloud by a very sarcastic brit. PonyFannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-53669886273244501592013-03-28T13:35:11.929-06:002013-03-28T13:35:11.929-06:00I do get where you are coming from Mugs, on how hu...I do get where you are coming from Mugs, on how humans have really gone over board on trying to get that "certain" look. We can't help ourselves. It is like we are hardwired to meddle in everything on the planet. <br />Nature will always be the one to create the perfect dog, the one that is the healthiest, most intelligent, and most athletic. Much like the Mustangs. Only the ones who are sound in body and mind get to survive. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617546413512282387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4380534023229200743.post-65795000947927571272013-03-28T13:12:35.712-06:002013-03-28T13:12:35.712-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617546413512282387noreply@blogger.com